The Story of a Woman Gangster
By Amrita Simon
Ram Gopal Verma's much awaited film,' Shabri' is slated to hit the theaters on the 26th of August.
Written and Directed by Lalit Marathe,'Shabri is a film supposed to be nothing like what Ramu's productions have churned out before. 
Starring Raj Arjun as the male lead who plays 'Murad', the Mathka don and Isha Koppikar in the female lead as 'Shabri', The film holds promise because no other film has ever been made about a Female Don amongst the gritty underbelly of Mumbai.
We managed to get Ram Gopal Verma to say a few words about his film...
What was your creative contribution to the film?
“All the creative calls with regards to the Writing and Directing were taken by Lalit Marathe.
I merely partnered with Reliance to produce it."
You must have seen the film.What is your opinion?
"Laalit Marathe has made a heart touchingly, realistic film"
What did you think about the actors' performances?
“Isha has done a fantastic performance and as for the Lead actor,Raj Arjun and Villian, Pradeep Rawaat (the guy who played Ghajni),they are both too good”
We asked Raj Arjun, who plays the main lead, a few questions...
Tell us about
yourself.
“I am originally from Bhopal. I have done theater, for 10 years,which is the first stepping stone for acting,I have worked with many known theater groups and my theater guru is Habeeb Tanveer Shab. In fact,I still do plays with Feroz Khan and Makrand Despande”.
Is this your first film as the leading man?
"Yes,and I can hardly control my excitement !!"
Have you done any other film before?
A long back, Mr Praval Raman called me for a very small role in Ramu's movie 'Company'.It was not even a role, it was just a shot. I was in Bhopal but I came and did it wholeheartedly because I had full belief in Ramu and had always wanted to work with him.
That small shot was the beginning of my association with Ram Gopal Verma.
Amazingly, after around 2-3 years, he remembered me despite that small shot and asked Praval to “call that shooter.” He didn't even know my name till then....
I met Ramu and I still remember the first thing he said … “This character, 'Murad' is a Matka Don. He has the intensity of 'Bhiku Matre' (Manoj Bajpai in 'SATYA') and the anger of 'Chandu' (Vivek Oberoi in 'COMPAN
Y').
Now go home and think about it and once you are ready with the character,let me know.
It took me 17 days to think deeply about the character,'Murad',because it was a little tough for me to work on such a thin line.
But after that when I met Ramu, dressed as 'Murad' in his office, he observed me minutely...my outfit, hair, my chappals. I thought he would say something but he simply left the room and disappeared,leaving me completely confused and nervous, wondering what was going on in his mind.
Suddenly,a young energetic man came out and introduced himself as Lalit Marathe,the Writer and Director of 'SHABRI'...I remember him getting excited and saying that he had gotten his 'Murad' !!
Did you do any research for this role?
I remember I started living like Murad. I took my costumes home and started roaming in slums of Mumbai, dressed like'Murad' with h
is Taaviz. I started going to Charni road and all the places where these Matka dons are said to frequent.
I remember being super excited and showering Lalit with questions about my character, Lalit was also totally into it and he started enjoying the whole process and we developed a great bond of faith before we went on floor.
One day I came to know, the actor playing 'Bandya' (Shabri's brother in the film) was being replaced,then came the news of the replacement of the Villan,'Rajdhar Bhau' and 'Shabri' too.
Finally Isha came on board as 'Shabri' so I got a little worried and asked Lalit if it was my chance now to get the boot.
Lalit's answer still rings in my head.He said "You are my 'Murad'.He can be played by you and you, alone.I can't even think of making this film without you." I still get goose flesh when I re
member that.
What happened next?
"Well, with him having so much faith in me,was a huge thing.I completely surrendered myself to Lalit and became his actor.
I started thinking about the mental picture Lalit had, of 'Murad'. How he saw and imagined him because 'Murad' was his creation and who knows a son better then his father..I wanted to be 'THAT SON', I wanted to be just the way Lalit had envisaged 'Murad.'
Soon after, I had an accident. I asked Lalit “ How will I perform with a broken leg?” He said, “ Come what may, you are my 'Murad'.
I will change the script and will show Murad as a limping man."Such was his blind faith in me!!(But my leg became ok,so I didn't need to limp at all)
Now what more can any actor,much less a new comer,
expect from a known, established, Writer& Director like Lalit Marathe? I gave the film my all because of his faith.
I think and hope that I did justice to Lalit's creation--'Murad'.
How is Lalit Marathe as a Director? Lalit was like a dream director, giving us complete freedom to perform and guiding us at the same time. He lived the characters and put life,a kind of Junoon in all the performers.
As for me,I became 'Murad'....I'd remained 'Murad' even after he yelled cut.Even while eating or relaxing,I'd remain 'Mura
d' throughout the day and even when we were not shooting.
During the scene shoots, Lalit would come to me and in whispers he used to ask 'How will you do it ? Just give me one sur and then start'
Because he also felt 'Murad' so deeply, he knew when 'Murad's' personality had taken over mine, so he ensured that no one should disturb him by loud voices. All I can say is....wow.. what a journey it was.
One day after a scene, Lalit came to me and said Arjun you don't know what great work you are doing and I wold like to you work with me in my next project.
I eagerly said, yes,yes,yes without asking about the script and role because I know whatever he'd make would be great!!!.
He is a fantastic director to work with.I would love to work with him again and again.
Tell us about Isha Koppikar. She is a star and you are a newcomer. What was it like? Working with her?
" Isha is a good co-star,
a hard worker and very professional.
To perform, she has to be in the skin of the character and she was. So I never saw Isha as a Heroine. I saw her as 'Shabri' from day one.
She had no starry airs about her We'd discuss scenes together.I was very comfortable with her.
She always looked out for me. In one scene I was badly beaten by 'Rajdhar Bhau's' gang and they hanged me with chain and all. Sometimes fight masters get very high and they forget that the actor who is playing hero is not a real fighter he is an actor who is doing a hero's role..
So they they chained my hand and started pulling it ...and my whole body's weight was on my wrists.
When Isha saw this she knew,I might hurt my wrist badly and told the fight master 'Don't do this. Just because he is new you can't do this' A harness was arranged immediately..and the shot was canned perfectly.
Another time I was told to jump from my back side and I was doing it with great enthusiasism,but Isha stopped me. 'Mr. Arjun do
want to do any more films after this?' she said. 'Yes. Why?' I asked
'Be careful,the way you are doing this shot, is dangerous and you could get seriously hurt.' she warned . So I cut down on the enthusiasm,took amplecare and precaution and we did the shot without me getting hurt.
I really am grateful to Isha Koppikar for all her kindness and support.
I'd also like to mention Mr Praval Raman.He is important to me because he cast me in the movie 'Company' and because of that, I got to meet Ramu.
I am very thankful to him and Ramu to give me this break.Who bothers to give breaks to newcomers like this? Who turns them into stars overnight? Only Ram Gopal Verma.
Ramuji gave me 'Shabri', my life's first film with such a mind boggling role. Any actor would have loved to do a fantastic role like this and he chose me.
I admire the man,he is never afraid of taking risks,and has a tremendous fight and courage within.
No matter what happens, I will always stand by Ramu.
I owe him BIG TIME!! I will always be in touch with him. Always."
We spoke to the Writer and Director of 'Shabri'- Lalit Marathe Tell us about your film,'SHABRI'...
"Shabri is the story of how a simple woman from a Mumbai slum ends up threatening the biggest cor
corridors of power in the Matka gambling underworld of the city. It’s a story of survival, dignity, determination, and human triumph in the face of impossible odds."
You have written the script...Where did you get this idea from? A woman from the slums of Mumbai, becoming a gangster? Is it based on a true story?
"There was this anecdote that Ramu himself had narrated about the wife of a gangster...so the process started from there and I left it far behind and reached somewhere else,plus there were references of real life woman gangsters... So I read whatever was available. I was aware that there women gangsters like these,but this film is not based on a true story.You may find there are parallels with some people. I tried to take the attitude from real life.It started me off thinking that this don can be a female."
But this look of a scruffy,unkempt looking, female gangster,in a ragged sari....where did you get that inspiration from?
"This girl is the breadwinner of her family.She handles the problems of life confronting her herself,she protects her family so her dark skin is symbolic of the harsh life she leads."
Sounds impressive.So how long did it take you to write the script?
"It took me close to 6 months,I kept making changes in the script while we were shooting because the actors lent their own chemistry and body language so I made sure that, that got reflected in the dialogues,in the story."
So you involved the actors in the script changes?
"I did I did.I think the casting of the actors was a very crucial thing."
Isha Koppikar is associated with glam roles,what made you pick her for this role?

"I saw Isha in 'D' and I saw the hunger she possesses,I thought she would be prefect for this role,I wanted,somebody with a lot of hunger..I wanted somebody fresh who has never done such a role before? Somebody who wants to prove herself."
This role required somebody with lots of talent. Isha till now,save for 'Kya Kool Hain Hum,' has not won too many accolades for her performances.You had faith in her talent because....
"Intuition is something that one goes with and I realized, after watching her brief role with Chunkey Pandey in 'D' that she had the potential to do justice tothis role."
When you saw Raj...did you REALLY see your 'Murad'?
"YES! COMPLETELY!! Completely and totally.I knew what I didn't want in 'Murad' and and in Raj I saw every thing, I didn't want in 'Murad' and he had everything 'Murad' would have."
Did Raj meet you in 'Murad's costume?
"His body language and the way he carried himself appealed me the most.I don't pay much attention to clothes etc....what is important to me is the overall personality."
In this film a lot of people were replaced. But,when Raj broke his leg,you didn't replace him. You changed the script instead,and made his character 'Murad' limp.Why?
"I knew what a tremendous potential he had and what he was capable of doing...so even if I had gotten the best actor in the world I wouldn't have replaced Raj because I knew I had already found my 'Murad'. No one could have replaced him.

I have put my entire soul, strength and spirit in this film. Such films are only made when, one has the passion to kill or die even, to make the film. I have killed myself for this film and I have died for this film too. Such was my involvement for 'Shabri'!!
Finally we spoke to Isha Koppikar..
Why is your complexion so dark in the film?
"The story is of a slum-dweller who has roughed it out,and that is
the kind of look I wanted to give my the character in the film. Both Lalit and I got this idea together.
When I was narrated the film,I thought of this person as this dark,rustic,rugged woman,you know, who has really roughed it out.
When I shared my thoughts with Lalit, he also had the same sentiments and we went ahead with the test shoot. During the test shoot we decided on Shabri's skin tone,how we should dress her and how she should be."
Did you build a set or shoot in real slums?
"We shot in real slums."
Did you do any kind of research for this role?
"No. I didn't do any research".
Then how did you manage to look so convincing as a slum dweller....and the sari....how did you get your sari to look like that?
"From the first day I felt the project was blessed. We had a stylist,we had a designer.His name is Reza Sharif,he gave it that effect!!
He put it in coffee water and tea water and boiled it and tattered it and
then, it was given to me."
We heard that your metamorphos
is from a glamorous actor to the grubby , disheveled 'Shabri' was so good that the crew mistook you as a rag-picker and almost threw you off the sets.
"Yeah,that actually happened.I was in my 'Shabri' get up, right in the skin of the character,walking around, rehearsing my lines when I was shooed away. Lalit had to intervene and explain that I was the Heroine of the film and not a rag-picker."
How easy was it for you to get into SHABRI'S character?Are you a 'Method' actor or 'Spontaneous'?
"That I will have to ask Lalit.... (asks Lalit) 'Lalit am I Method actor or Spontaneous?' “Spontaneous”-said Lalit "Spontaneous ! " chirped Isha
Are you a Director's actor?
"Director's delight!! I'm the Director's delight!! ("Joy, Joy!! " added Lalit ) "See?? I am a director's delight!!" she laughed.
So you are as good as your director is...
"You see since I'm Spontaneous, sometimes the compliments that I’ve gotten from directors is that 'Isha, a lot of times you rise above the script' ( at this,Latit gives a double thumbs up ) and that, I inspire the characters and the script as well."
These are the things that have come to me by my Directors. An actor is like a clay and the Director is the potter who molds the clay"
You have worked with Raj Arjun for the first time
"Yeah! Fantastic actor!"
He is playing the lead for the first time.How was it working with him?
"I had a great time,he is a very committed and a very sincere actor."
Raj told me he was being lifted by chains without a harness and you intervened.
"They were lifting him without any harness any security, tomorrow, if something happens to him who's responsible?"
Working and acting in slums did it make you more sympathetic, feel more empathy towards slum dwellers?
"More than empathy, I respect them. They are so happy in that little place that they live in and..... Hah!! for some people, no space is big enough,if they have a flat they want a bungalow, if they have a bungalow they want a building."
That's true. I think this going to be your best work yet....do you agree??
"Yes. it's going to be my masterpiece- My Picasso"
How is Lalit Marathe as a director?
"Fantastic...he is very clear about what he wants."
So if he doesn't get what he want, is he patient? Or.......

"He's a lot like Shabri.He's got this latent aggression which is seen in the way he presents his actors, his characters. He'll be patient for a while but then there will be some gesture or something that will make us feel that OK, we've had it now and we'd better take care of the situation!!
Its not that he's loud but something in his words give you get a feeling that now he's upset and you've pushed your luck too far !!"
You have married into the Narangs', a typical Page 3 family.How do they feel about your acting?
"They really don't have a problem.My husband is very supportive,he knows that I love acting and definitely he has no qualms."
So you will not stop acting...this will not be your last film?
"No,no! This is not my last film. I'm about to sign two more movies.I just took a year's break to spend time with my husband,my in-laws. I live in a joint family and you need to take some time off and settle in.You need to bond."
Well,thanks for talking to us. All the best for the film! May it send the cash registers ringing!!
"Thank you so much!"said Isha.